When is phantasmagoria the visions of lewis carroll
It is ridiculous that this would be shelved especially after many years of anticipation. This, however is not the first time something like this has happened, nor will it be the last.
People have the right to not want something but they can also not watch it either. Movies should not be shelved because of those not wanting it rather should be made for those who do want it. My wife and I were both waiting with baited breath for this to be release and now are both extremely disappointed.
We have been disappointed in humanity for sometime and this really takes the cake. I thought the movie was…in a word…controversial. Charles Dodgson was not perverted, homosexual, or anything of the worst kind. He merely had a deep interest in the human mind, and body, particularly the female. Many misconceptions have been made, but are too absurd for anyone with any descent sense to believe. Nowadays we see PORN in every corner, in every website, in every politicians house.
And people are shocked with this film. I confess i am not a Marilyn Manson fan, but i really despise the false puritanism of American people e. They are really a very petty and hypocritical people. I have been a manson fan for awhile and I believe like others tht it should not be shut down. Dont let a bunch of judgemental, ignorant ppl make this movie not happen. I have been goin online constantly to see if it was goin to be released.
I am sad to hear it wasnt. Although I do hope the ppl tht do support the movie will hopefully change your mind. I know girls were married off young, but even then, with the questionable photos and innuendos written about her in his stories its a wonder he never actually physically molested her…I think the movie would have been OK, had it not been for the bizarre sex scene between the sisters…other scenes looked rather decent.
No, Charles Dodgson never asked any of the Liddell daughters to marry him, as far as we know. I am really disappointed that it was shelved. I think there is more than we are being told. I have been waiting years also.
I have always been interested in Lewis Carroll and have done alot of research on him. I think Manson has the right idea to probe into the deepest parts of Lewis Carrolls mind. A number of actors, musicians and various personnel are noted or rumored to have been involved in the production. For many contributors, their status of involvement is unclear due to relationship fallouts with Manson. For example, the film's score was said to have been produced by Manson, Stephen Bier and Tim Skold , the latter two whom departed the band by the conclusion of Dita Von Teese , who was formerly married to Manson was at one point involved in the film.
Likewise, Evan Rachel Wood, whom Manson had been dating and was engaged to for some time, was once attached to act in Phantasmagoria , in addition to another Marilyn Manson film, Splatter Sisters , but the end of their relationship makes her status with both films uncertain. Anthony Silva, co-writer for Phantasmagoria , spoke about the film in a May interview with MansonWiki.
Silva claimed his roles might have extended to direction and editing as well as screenwriting. He also spoke about the film's creation process, remembering how the writers studied Carroll's diaries, biographies and newspaper articles and surveys of the era, in addition to the very cameras and photography from that time period. Medical practices of the s were also examined, "as Carroll experienced great bouts of sickness throughout his life. I cannot give out the details of the other artists involved, or the director today On the film's scare tactics, Manson said, "I want to take the children's story that we all know, and discover the horrifying roots that grow beneath every one of its childish metaphors.
The characters may be absurd and wrapped in puzzles, but, the author himself is the story that I find painfully close to me. Lewis Carroll is far more complex than the world's narrow perception of him as a quiet deacon, a mathematician and a loner, simply obsessed with photographing young girls. He was possibly one of the most divided souls living in his own hell that the world has overlooked.
Phantasmagoria was described as filmed in a manner previously unexplored. Manson explained, "I have a camera that I'll be the first person to use in cinema, and I'm very excited about it. It's very unique. The textbook Manson-ness of the trailer made it difficult to believe that the shock could have been severe enough to send the whole production belly up, and so uniform were press reports that there was ample room for the conspiratorial imagination to take over.
Did the project fold for more mundane reasons? Was the so-called scandal just a more marketable explanation for its failure? His diaries inspired the best horror film ever. But again: nothing. The film had by then been the subject of public interest for a decade.
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